Dear and respected Venugopal sir
Vanakam , Nalam
Sorry for my late englsh reply , very soon may be i sen my tamil voice reply
On 05/12/13 6:56 PM, venugopal Arunachalam wrote:
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Dear and respected venugopal sir
we are not only educated eng ,scientists , but also
I am deeply involved . moved by the food , water crysis of ourb birth placees OF TN, with when one poor dalit , weeping requested my land divided afer death of father to plant rice to eat , survive as olden time , but my mother , brother against me plannting sugar cane .I realy began fighting my younger brither destroying trees , i plianted , using tractor , many poor get lost jobs ,yet he got the best president of rural villages based on political paraty dividing the village .We need unity among all tamil, villagers as village is not city .
From that time i have been deeply thinking this food vs fuel problems, the real conflicts rural energy food , how to act
Now i am in dry semi arid land , how , whst people eat give us the solutions .thank you for your well formulated problems as we engineers recive problems very ill formed .YOU MADE WELL THE REAL PROBLEM as follow
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P.V.PANNIRSELVAM
ASSOCIATE . PROF.
Research Group ,GPEC, Coordinator
Computer aided Cost engineering
DEQ – Departamento de Engenharia Química
CT – Centro de Tecnologia / UFRN, Lagoa Nova – Natal/RN
Campus Universitário. CEP: 59.072-970
North East,Brazil
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Sorry for my late englsh reply , very soon may be i sen my tamil voice reply
On 05/12/13 6:56 PM, venugopal Arunachalam wrote:
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Dear and respected venugopal sir
we are not only educated eng ,scientists , but also
social engineers , Your deep thinking of the problems make me awake .Surely this complex crucial problem of small agricultural people of my family , many more in India ,see the suicide is also often theer india of the poor farmers . We surely can not leave also all this complex problems in the hand of few poitical people alone , as they are not realy social innovative entrepruners , but become power hungry , not bothered about people real problems .we need people protest for this problems.
I am deeply involved . moved by the food , water crysis of ourb birth placees OF TN, with when one poor dalit , weeping requested my land divided afer death of father to plant rice to eat , survive as olden time , but my mother , brother against me plannting sugar cane .I realy began fighting my younger brither destroying trees , i plianted , using tractor , many poor get lost jobs ,yet he got the best president of rural villages based on political paraty dividing the village .We need unity among all tamil, villagers as village is not city .
From that time i have been deeply thinking this food vs fuel problems, the real conflicts rural energy food , how to act
Now i am in dry semi arid land , how , whst people eat give us the solutions .thank you for your well formulated problems as we engineers recive problems very ill formed .YOU MADE WELL THE REAL PROBLEM as follow
Problem defined
A few months ago, i was in Kumbakonam, they said the rice they are buying from Karnataka, state, the rice bowl of Tanjavour and neighboring town became dry due to lack of rain and the dispute between Karnataka & Tamil Naud in sharing the Cauvery water resulted in no water to TN.
Under these circumstances, the cost of rice has shoot up to UDS 1 and more ( $-54INR)
What is your suggestion. Pl tell me some good project from your experiences which will help the Indian people to solve the food problem. the center govt now is highly corrupt and all ministers either at state or center are having own company and resulting in corruption every where, common people are suffering a lot.
God only can save India, at the time of election , the poor people vote for liquor and how come we can expect good govt ,
Under these circumstances, the cost of rice has shoot up to UDS 1 and more ( $-54INR)
What is your suggestion. Pl tell me some good project from your experiences which will help the Indian people to solve the food problem. the center govt now is highly corrupt and all ministers either at state or center are having own company and resulting in corruption every where, common people are suffering a lot.
God only can save India, at the time of election , the poor people vote for liquor and how come we can expect good govt ,
well wriitem word from venugopal sir
we need not keep , god can not help lazy people , people who sucide ,
Pl keep in touch with me by exchanging mail. i will reply you to your all mails-pl convey my best wishes to your family and children-venogoplakl wrote about the probelm
Pl keep in touch with me by exchanging mail. i will reply you to your all mails-pl convey my best wishes to your family and children-venogoplakl wrote about the probelm
we are the world , we can solve , we can join , we can pray for unity among diversity
Solution to the problems
I have my close friend from Karnataka Rajesh S.k , we are elite IIT made scholar , now doing pos dr about biomass and bio energy in Norway . He is very bothered about how we can solve rural food , energy talking half an hour daily via google hangeout 4 times per week No body plant in india , but destroy the forest wheer water uused to be produced.We wish to make possible 1 million moringa , other oilm seed forest , makpossible wayer , biodiesel protein , as this can pay back for one who invest in hilly dry areas
see our projet details
we plan to make agroforest , using moringa macubua oikl plants , in hillly areas of karnataka , as sedi moringa grows fast reduce erosao , we can signifivantly improve water fal in karnataka .
Instead going to court , our state government , ong need plan to do so very less investment compred to get water from swage etc
Nature is our mother.
\\if rice is 54 in chennai , will also affect karanataka , as we are nearby ,neighbour too .
There is new tecnology using micro alga , reduce water losses , dry land rices.
we nedd to go far variety for less water .
some small farmer from north is doing inovation got the higest produtivity with less water .
it is also posible to make integrated ponds to make micro alga , shrimps , fish along withn ferri irrigations .
our students make projects ,
every 1a pond systems can help make 4 ha fertirrigation of rice. in 2 ha it may be posible to get 4 tons of fidh and 4 ton of shrimps , using solar boiomass energy ,Rajesh is making calculations , design along with us .This can be good soltions ,
we need some poliverse crop rottaed , modern organic farms groudn=nuts ,seasame , cassava soyabeans , biodeisel,pirobiogas for agro energy as alternate short time to get food,feed and fuel for animal feed integrated farms , integraed aqua culure to rice , integared agroforest system
we are doing work on many projects orgaanic biscoits ,these crops do not need muvh water , can be done dry to enrich soil , crop roation we call thsi made Ecological biosystem , imitating the natural ecosystems xoing sime system engineerings
Finaly we also do innovation to find ecobusines , zero emissao , clean tech to make wealth and heal for all fombiomass and biomass waste from diverso all this crop system wirh total utilizarion of all biomass components
we need more fiber to eat , this can be done cassava fiber multimiture/ we have bot done uppuma from this as well bean starch , thus posible to sustuite rice starch , replace signifivantly the rice to make the idly and dosa via green chemical route.
some white beans have both strarch and proteins , we made posible idly and dosa with very less rice .\white bens can b good alterante as thsi one is like pur avarai kai. we make good nutrius biscoite from all this less water consuming starch .
BRAZILIAN SIMPLE TECH TO AKE FIBRAS STARCH CAN BE IMPOTRTED , rather than import rice too , as THE world IS globalised one .
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FOOD PROBLEM is not local , as already multinacional enter every wheer , make money , even india allow investments .
Let us join google hangout to work on this problem jointly weelkyy one
My many indian friend like can alos hellp usto make this project reality to be very green for food fuel ,feed from biomass as well as biomass waste , agroforests
see how can make thism possible
yours truely
Pannirselvam ,P,V
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P.V.PANNIRSELVAM
ASSOCIATE . PROF.
Research Group ,GPEC, Coordinator
Computer aided Cost engineering
DEQ – Departamento de Engenharia Química
CT – Centro de Tecnologia / UFRN, Lagoa Nova – Natal/RN
Campus Universitário. CEP: 59.072-970
North East,Brazil
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